I had Jovan Pulitzer on my show yesterday, and you know it was a good show (because of the Guest!) when you're still thinking about it the next day!

And that's exactly what I've been doing all day today...thinking about my chat with Jovan and re-running it through my head.

The whole thing was fascinating as it always is each time I get the pleasure of having him come on my show...I have so much fun getting to chat with him, I suddenly look up and a couple hours have flown by!

But the thing that's still running through my head a full day later is what Jovan told me about the Moon.

We were on the topic of Conspiracy Theories and so I randomly asked him "Do you think we went to the Moon in 1969?"

I had no idea what his answer was going to be....

And quite frankly what he said shocked me. It was not the answer I would have expected if you had asked me ahead of time.

Let me post the full video links to the interview here in case you missed it and then scroll down and I'll break down what he said and all my thoughts as I sit here one day later.

And then here are all the links you need that we mentioned in the interview:

LIVE with Jovan Pulitzer -- Forensic Breakdown of Trump Shooting: https://rumble.com/v577ipp-live-with-jovan-pulitzer-forensic-breakdown-of-trump-shooting.html

Jovan Pulitzer Explains How He Caught Them All In Arizona! (Watermarked Ballots?): https://rumble.com/v54f1zb-jovan-pulitzer-explains-how-he-caught-them-all-in-arizona-watermarked-ball.html

Follow Jovan Pulitzer on Rumble: https://rumble.com/c/JovanHuttonPulitzer

Ok, so now let's really dig into the topic that Jovan has sent spinning through my head ever since we talked yesterday....Did we got to the Moon in 1969 like they told us we did?

If you've been a long-time reader of this site, you probably know I've grown very skeptical on that topic.

I've grown skeptical of almost EVERYTHING the Government has told us, especially the things like this that they try so hard to indoctrinate us with.

I grew up thinking "of course we went to the Moon!" And dreaming of space exploration and the wonders that we would see in my lifetime. The Star Trek world coming to life!

And perhaps we will still get that reality, but let's just say the more I've looked into it, the more skeptical I have become that we actually went to the Moon.

I'll explain why in a bit, but my opinion is less important than Jovan's opinion.

In fact, if it were anyone else who gave me the theory Jovan gave me, I'd probably have dismissed it outright, but since it's Jovan it gives me pause to really take it in and consider it.

So basically, he told me he believes we actually went, and the biggest thing that convinced him was the Moon Rocks.

Actually, what he said at first was that he hasn't really spent any time investigating it so he doesn't want to speak to something he's not fully educated on (which is very respectful) but then in typical Jovan fashion it turns out he does actually know a ton about it!

So he told me that we brought back a ton of Moon Rocks and they are verifiably not from Earth. They are also verifiably not just asteroids or other space debris because they don't have the fire scarring you would have if they entered Earth through its atmosphere.

Fascinating!

I have to say that almost nothing I learn about the Moon Landings makes me think they were real, and the more I dig in the more skeptical I typically become on the topic as I learn more.

But verifiable Moon Rocks? That has my attention.

Then he shocked me a bit more by saying he thinks there's a "Second Right Answer" here about the Moon Landing.

Watch the interview for yourself and I hope I'm not mistating anything he said, but he continued to say he does think it's likely we faked the FIRST alleged trip to the Moon in 1969 in order to "win" the race against the Russians, but then the Moon Rocks prove we eventually did get there at some point.

And then why did we stop going? Because it got too expensive and we just didn't see enough value in the Moon or returning to it!

Wow!

It's entirely unfair for me to have a one-sided conversation about this topic writing this article, so I think I'm going to have to have Jovan back on and do an extended conversation/debate on this topic, what do you think? Would you like to see that?

Because as much as I greatly respect his opinion, I'm finding this a bit tough to believe....and the debate of ideas is so much fun, even if I'd likely end up losing in any debate with Jovan! That's almost certain.

But to go with this story, I have to believe the following:

We made it to the Moon on the very first try with 1/200,000th (Jovan's number) the computer power that we have available to use today....and we nailed it on the first try (whether that was in 1969 or later if the first one was faked)...

The Government lied to us about faking the first one, but is totally telling the truth now about the others. You can believe them, they're the Government!

Then we stopped going because it just got too expensive....I find it hard to believe this is the one incident in history where the Government finally decided to get fiscally conservative and reduce spending, but Jovan tells me there is precedent in the fact we also chose to not raid a highly valuable Afghanistan mine full of massive gemstones that we discovered and then let the Afghanis keep.

Oh, and then there is the Moon Rocks....

That's the thing that's been running through my head all day long. Jovan is right, even considering all the other anomalies in this story, if we have scientifically verifiable Moon Rocks, that sure does seem to suggest we brought them back with us.

So I started researching it today and I found this:

STEVE INSKEEP, host:

Good morning. I'm Steve Inskeep.

A prize possession in the Dutch national museum is not what the curators thought. In 1969, the Apollo 11 astronauts visited the Netherlands. And the U.S. ambassador gave the Dutch prime minister what he said was a moon rock. No doubt it gave a warm feeling to the U.S. ally. But when an expert saw it in the national museum, he said he wasn't so sure it was real. Geologists have now identified the moon rock as petrified wood.

It's MORNING EDITION.

Or if you prefer, from Phys.org:

The Dutch national Rijksmuseum made an embarrassing announcement last week that one of its most loved possessions, a moon rock, is a fake -- just an old piece of petrified wood that's never been anywhere near the moon.

The Rijksmuseum is famous for its fine art collections, especially paintings by Rembrandt and other masters. One of its lesser known objects, the "moon rock", was first unveiled in October 2006 as the centerpiece of a "Fly me to the moon" exhibition. At that time, the museum said the rock symbolized the "exploration of the unknown, colonization of far-away places and bringing back of treasures..." A reading about the "moon rock" was even held on October 7 because it was a full moon!

The rock was given as a private gift to former prime minister Willem Drees Jr in 1969 by the U.S. ambassador to The Netherlands, J. William Middendorf II, during a visit by the Apollo 11 astronauts, Armstrong, Collins and Aldrin, soon after the first moon landing. Drees had been out of office for 11 years, but was considered an elder statesman.

When Drees died in 1988, the rock was donated to the Rijksmuseum, where it has remained ever since. According to a museum spokeswoman, Ms Van Gelder, no one doubted the authenticity of the rock because it was in the prime minister's own collection, and they had vetted the acquisition by a phone call to NASA.

According to an article published by the Rijksmuseum, at one time the rock was insured for approximately half a million dollars, but its actual value is probably no more than around $70.

Former U.S. ambassador, Mr Middendorf was unable to recall the exact details of how the rock came to be in the U.S. State Department's possession. It is known that NASA gave lunar rocks to over 100 countries in the 1970s, but when the rock was displayed in 2006 a space expert told the museum he doubted any material would have been given away so soon after the manned lunar landing.

Researchers from the Free University of Amsterdam immediately doubted the rock was from the moon, and began extensive testing. The tests concluded the rock was petrified wood. U.S. embassy officials were unable to explain the findings, but are investigating.

Ok, so now the story grows....

Why is it that everywhere you turn in this story you have to accept that "yes, sure we lied about this one detail here, but all the others are good!"

So now we most likely have NASA and the US Government faking the first mission in 1969 because we had to beat the Russians....but it's ok because the others were real.

I have to believe they just didn't see any value in returning to the Moon after 1972 and for the only time in recorded history that I can find chose NOT to spend millions and billions of dollars extremely wastefully...

And now I have to believe that yes, the Moon Rock given to the Dutch people was a fake, but the others are all real. Trust us bro!

I don't know, my Spidey Sense is tingling!

Jovan is 1,00 times smarter and more accomplished than I am, and even that may be an understatement, but my Tin Foil hat is going crazy on this one!

What do you think....should we do another show and dig deep into the details?

Will Jovan end up converting me into a Moon believer?

Can I go back to believing in all my childhood fantasies that we will one day roam the stars like Jean Luc Picard on the bridge of the Enterprise NCC 1701D?

I would like that.

It would be a much simpler and happier world to return to.

Because instead of living in the idealistic, happy future of ST:TNG, we currently live in the abysmal, dystopian ST:Picard and it kind of sucks!

Drop me a comment below if you'd like to see Jovan educate me again on this topic and maybe we can make it happen!

And I'll leave you all with this for more information....I sure do miss Rob Skiba, he was truly one of the good guys.

I respect Jovan 1000%, but here is the counter-argument from another guy I also highly respected and a person we lost far too soon:

What do you think?

If you want to dig into this even deeper, here are a few prior articles I've written -- although perhaps Jovan will eventually convince me 100% that we did, in fact, go to the Moon. We will see!

MOON MAN: Bart Sibrel EXPOSES The Moon Landings

Joe Rogan: Why Can't Billionaires Replicate The Moon Landing?